I have hired hundreds of people across three companies. I have also let a lot of them go. The hiring part gets the books and the podcasts. The firing part gets whispered about in parking lots and judged by every person still on the payroll.
Here’s what nobody tells you. The way you fire someone is the loudest thing you do as a leader. The team you keep is watching closer than the person you lose.
TL;DR: Firing someone is the leadership skill that gets judged hardest and taught least. Done badly, it costs you the trust of every person who watched. Done well, it strengthens the team. The version that holds up is short, specific, and respectful. No surprise, no ambush, no lecture. Treat people like adults on the way out and the ones who stay will work harder.
The firing conversation is a leadership exam, not an HR task
Most leaders treat a termination like paperwork. Get the script from HR, read the script, walk the person out, send the email. That approach protects the company on paper and damages it everywhere else.
The people who stay are running the math in their heads. Was that fair. Did they see it coming. Could that be me next Tuesday. If the answers feel sketchy, you just taught your A players that this place punishes people without warning. Some of them will start interviewing. The rest will lower their effort by about fifteen percent and you’ll never see exactly when it happened.
I’ve fired people in commercial roofing, in residential remodeling, and now at a sheet metal division with hundreds of employees. The setting changes. The stakes do not. Every time you let someone go, you’re showing the team what your standards actually are and whether your stated values survive contact with a hard conversation.
How I decide it’s actually time
I’ve got a simple test. If I could swap this person out tomorrow for someone average at the role, would the team be better off. If the answer is yes and it’s been yes for three months, I’m already late.
That sounds harsh. It’s the opposite. Keeping the wrong person is not kindness. It’s cowardice dressed up as patience. Your top performers are picking up the slack. Your middle is watching them get crushed and learning that effort doesn’t matter. The person you’re protecting knows they’re not cutting it. They feel it every morning. You’re not doing them a favor by letting them drown in slow motion.
Before I make the call I run through four things.
Have I been specific about the gap. Not vibes, not a feeling, an actual list of what’s missing.
Have I given them a real shot at fixing it. Not a sixty day PIP designed to fail. A genuine chance with coaching, clear metrics, and a fair runway.
Is the problem the person or the system. Sometimes the role was set up to fail. Sometimes the manager above them is the actual issue. If I fire the symptom and keep the cause, I’ll fire someone else in six months for the same reason.
Would I rehire this person tomorrow if they were available. If I hesitate even a beat, that’s my answer.
When all four come back clean, I move. Waiting longer is not generosity. It’s me avoiding a hard fifteen minutes.
When a PIP works and when it’s just delay
A performance improvement plan is a real tool when the person can actually close the gap and you’re willing to invest in helping them do it. It’s a lie when you already know the answer and you’re using the document to build a paper trail.
People can feel the difference. So can the team around them. A real PIP has a few things in common. Specific behaviors or outcomes that need to change. A timeline short enough to mean something and long enough to be fair, usually thirty to sixty days. Weekly check ins where you actually coach, not just check a box.
A fake PIP has none of that. It has vague language, a calendar reminder, and an HR file. If you wouldn’t bet your own money on this person succeeding, do not put them on a plan. Have the conversation now. The kindest thing you can do for someone who is failing is tell them the truth while they still have energy to start over.
What I actually say in the room
The conversation should be short. Five minutes, not fifty. Direct, not cruel. Specific, not vague.
I open with the point. Something close to this. I asked you in here because today is your last day with the company. The decision is final. I want to walk you through what happens next and answer your questions.
That opening kills the ambiguity. It signals respect by not making them guess. And it stops the worst version of the meeting, where someone thinks they can talk their way out of it and burns ten minutes of their dignity trying.
Then I give the reason, briefly. Not a lecture. Not a list of every mistake from the last eight months. One or two sentences that match what they’ve already heard from me. If this is the first time they’re hearing any of it, I’ve failed them as a manager and I need to own that out loud.
Then I shut up. I let them react. Some people cry. Some get angry. Some go quiet. Some ask a sharp question. Whatever happens, I don’t fill the silence with more reasons. Reasons stop helping the moment the decision is made. After that point, more talking just makes me feel better and makes them feel worse.
Last, I cover logistics. Final pay, benefits, what happens with their things, what we’ll say to clients, how we’ll reference them if asked. Then I shake their hand or thank them and the meeting ends. Walking someone out in front of the team is almost always a mistake unless there’s a real safety concern. Give them their dignity on the way out. The people watching will notice.
What you owe the team afterward
Here’s where most leaders blow it. They either say nothing and let the rumor mill fill the silence, or they overshare and turn the conversation into a defense of their own decision.
Both are weak. There’s a middle path.
I tell the team that the person is no longer with the company, effective immediately. I thank the person for their contributions, briefly and honestly. I tell the team who is covering the work in the short term and when we’ll talk about a longer term plan. I tell them that out of respect for the person who left, I’m not going to walk through the details, and I trust them to do the same.
Then I invite them to come to me directly if they have questions or concerns. Some will. That’s the conversation that actually matters. Your best people will want to know what the standard was, whether they’re safe, and whether you handled it the way they would want to be handled. Answer those questions honestly. Don’t gossip. Don’t score points on someone who is not in the room.
The thing that actually rebuilds trust is consistency. If you fired someone for missing numbers, every person who is missing numbers needs to be having the same conversation. If you fired someone for how they treated a teammate, the next person who pulls the same move needs to face the same consequence regardless of their title or their billings. The team is watching whether the rule applies to everyone or just to the people who can’t push back.
What firing badly actually costs you
I’ve inherited teams that were broken by bad terminations. You can spot it within a week. People are careful. They keep their heads down. They run information up but not sideways. They don’t volunteer for anything. They check their email at midnight not because they’re committed but because they’re scared.
Bad firings cost you real money. Your recruiting costs go up because referrals dry up. Your time to fill goes up because your reputation in the market gets quieter and worse. Your best performers leave first because they have options and they hate working somewhere that feels arbitrary. Your remaining managers stop making hard calls because they watched the last one go sideways. Within a year you’re running a slower, more anxious, more expensive version of the same company.
The opposite is also true. I’ve seen teams get stronger after a fair, clean termination. The standard gets clearer. The people who had been carrying weight feel seen. New energy comes in. The bench gets deeper because the people who are still there start coaching each other harder, because they trust that effort is going to be recognized.
The practical version, all on one page
If you only remember a handful of things, make it these.
Decide before you walk in. Don’t let the meeting decide for you. If your conviction is shaky, you’ll hedge, and a hedged firing is worse than no firing at all.
Never surprise a good faith employee. If today is the first time they’re hearing they’re in trouble, the failure is yours. Fix that habit before you fix anything else.
Keep it short. Five minutes, not fifty. Lead with the decision, give the reason in two sentences, cover logistics, end.
Don’t negotiate. The decision is final. If you’re willing to negotiate, you weren’t ready to fire them.
Protect their dignity. No perp walk. No public reveal. No talking trash after they leave. The team is watching how you treat someone who can’t fight back. That’s the real test.
Tell the team what they need to know and nothing more. Confirm the change, cover the work, invite private questions, refuse to gossip.
Be consistent. The standard you enforced today is the standard you owe everyone tomorrow, including your top performers and including yourself.
Reflect afterward. What did I see late. What did I avoid. What hiring filter would have caught this earlier. Every firing is feedback on your own leadership. Use it.
Where leaders actually grow
You don’t get better at this by reading about it. You get better by doing it with your spine straight and your conscience clean, and then asking yourself honest questions after.
The leaders I respect most have one thing in common. They’ve fired people, and the people they fired would still take their call. Not because the conversation was fun, but because it was fair. That’s the bar. If the person you let go would describe the experience as hard but honest, you did it right.
If you’re leading a team and this part of the job has been wearing you down, you’re not alone. It’s the work nobody trains you for and everyone judges you on. I talk about it openly with executive teams and leadership groups because it’s one of the few skills that touches everything else. Culture, retention, hiring, trust, all of it.
If you want me to bring this conversation to your team, book me to speak. I’ll give you the version of leadership that doesn’t require an HR script.
Common questions
How do I know I am firing the right person?
Run four checks. Have you been specific about the gap, not just frustrated. Have you given them a real chance to fix it with coaching and clear metrics. Is the problem the person or the system around them. Would you rehire this person tomorrow if they were available. If you hesitate on that last one, you have your answer. Waiting longer is not kindness, it is avoidance.
What do I actually say in the conversation?
Keep it to five minutes. Open with the decision so they are not guessing. Something like, I asked you in here because today is your last day, the decision is final. Give the reason in one or two sentences that match feedback they have already heard. Let them react without filling the silence. Cover final pay, benefits, and logistics. Thank them and end the meeting.
How much should I tell the team afterward?
Tell them the person is no longer with the company effective immediately, thank the person briefly and honestly, share who is covering the work, and invite private questions. Do not walk through the details. Refuse to gossip. The team is testing whether you treat people with respect when they lose their leverage. Consistency is what actually rebuilds trust.
When does a PIP work and when is it just delaying the inevitable?
A real performance improvement plan has specific outcomes, a thirty to sixty day timeline, and weekly coaching where you actually help. It works when the person can close the gap and you are willing to invest. It is a lie when you already know the answer and you are using the document to build a paper trail. If you would not bet your own money on their success, skip the PIP and have the honest conversation now.